Item description for Listening to the Beliefs of Emerging Churches: Five Perspectives by Robert E. Webber, Mark Driscoll & John Burke...
Overview A cross-section of five frontline leaders in the controversial emerging church movement shed informative light on their beliefs and basic message to help us understand whether it?s all about new methods or a new message or both.
Publishers Description What are the beliefs of the new movement known as the emerging church? In thought-provoking debate, prominent emerging leaders John Burke, Mark Driscoll, Dan Kimball, Doug Pagitt, and Karen Ward discuss their sometimes controversial views under the editorship of author and educator Robert Webber. Hear what they say about their views of Scripture, Christ, the atonement, other world religions, and other important doctrines, so you can come to your own conclusions about the emerging church.
Citations And Professional Reviews Listening to the Beliefs of Emerging Churches: Five Perspectives by Robert E. Webber, Mark Driscoll & John Burke has been reviewed by professional book reviewers and journalists at the following establishments -
Christian Century - 10/16/2007 page 39
CBA Retailers - 02/01/2007 page 41
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Est. Packaging Dimensions: Length: 0.75" Width: 6" Height: 8.75" Weight: 0.65 lbs.
Release Date Feb 5, 2007
Publisher Zondervan Publishing
ISBN 0310271355 ISBN13 9780310271352 UPC 025986271350
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More About Robert E. Webber, Mark Driscoll & John Burke
Robert E. Webber is Myers Professor of Ministry at Northern Seminary in Lombard, Illinois, and the president of the Institute for Worship Studies. He is the author of a number of books, including Ancient-Future Faith and The Younger Evangelicals.
Robert E. Webber lived in Wheaton, in the state of Illinois. Robert E. Webber was born in 1927 and died in 2007.
Robert E. Webber has published or released items in the following series...
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Driscoll gets both stars...the others: Zero Mar 29, 2007
I was pretty apprehensive about reading this book. I really didn't know what to expect and didn't know really what the approach was going to be with this book. To be honest, the only reason that I picked up the book is because I went to the Resurgence Conference and Mark Driscoll was one of the contributors. I am glad I didn't "judge" Driscoll for being a part of this book before I read this, because I thought he was distancing himself from the people that contributed to this book. After reading, let's just say that Driscoll is definitely NOT a part of what is commonly known as the Emergent church and he is really a lot different than those a part of the wider used term, "emerging church."
The only thing that I got from this book, besides Driscoll admonishing the other contributors (Burke, Kimball, Pagitt, Ward), is to make sure that our theology is put into practice. I can say that it did make me think from that perspective. Outside of that, this book was very shallow and far from, and I mean FAR FROM, biblical ecclesiology. Mark Driscoll had to continually "exhort sound doctrine" to these other "pastors" and return them to the Scriptures. Driscoll was the only pastor that truly held to Sola Scriptura, while the others look more to our culture and those around them to form their ecclesiology, orthopraxy, and most dangerous: orthodoxy.
The two "pastors" that people need to really be warned of is Doug Pagitt and Karen Ward. They are far from Christendom (which they would admit and happily accept) and should not be given an ear to listen to. Burke and Kimball were on the edge but still held to the complete authority of Scripture, although I would definitely not adhere to a lot of the ways that they practice their theology and more specifically, their ecclesiology.
Again, Driscoll was the lone bright spot and because of the far reaching post-modern ideas of the other contributors, Driscoll sounded like John MacArthur more than an emerging pastor. Througout the discussion, just when you thought Driscoll was getting "soft" he "brought it" again.
As far as the frame of the book, it is set up to give each "pastor" a chapter with the other four being able to respond to that pasor's contribution. The original intent was for each author to show their thoughts on the Trinity, the atonement and Scripture. I found only Driscoll's chapter to be the only one who "followed the rules." But, what else should we expect from these emerging leaders? The sad thing is that since the authors were so shallow, Driscoll was forced to defend basic orthodoxy and wasn't able to give a great in depth study or defense of the above said topics.
If you would like to read about these different views on the emerging church, I guess it is okay to read, but it is just so messed up as far as their thinking on how church should be run that it is hard for me to recommend. I am glad I read it so that I could see that Driscoll is NOT Emergent in any way. He is far from Pagitt and McLaren and should be seen as the lone bright spot out of these that contributed to the book.
Please be discerning if you pick this book up and like a Berean, test all teachings to Scripture.
Disturbing modern trends. Mar 21, 2007
This is a study that should be read. I find the evolving of Evangelicalism most troubling. Mark Driscoll is one of the founders of the emerging church. He too is now troubled by where this movement is headed. I figured the church had seen the worst with the "seeker-sensitive" movement, but this is one step further to the left. I realize in this post-christian era we should expect anything, but this movement is becoming most unbelievable! Truly these are the "last days" that Christ warned us about.
Great Diversity Mar 8, 2007
I highly recommend this book to anyone who cares about the U.S. church as it is now, and where it is going. Although I lean more towards Driscoll's theology, it was great to here these Pastor's react to one another.
A good peek into the emerging movement Mar 3, 2007
The candor and grace of the writers is wonderfully refreshing. The reason this book is helpful is that it presents a critique of the movement from within. While only Driscoll, Burke and Kimball seemed to stick to the topic at hand, Driscoll and Burke were the most theological and consistent. While I would be considered one of those sitting in the coffeeshop eavesdropping on the "conversation," my exposure to the last two writers left me troubled. I think Driscoll's critique to be very helpful and honest, dealing with issues without attacking personalities. That said, I'm not sure where Chrisitan distinctives fit into Doug Pagitt's or Karen Ward's congregations. They talk about God, the Kingdom, and Jesus, but in varied and often redefined ways, according to their own opinions with liitle authority outside themselves. Good exposure to be able to see what's really going on amidst all the buzz.
Theologically shallow. Feb 21, 2007
I purchased this book hoping that it would be a starting point for some major theological issues in the emergent stream. Unfortunately what I found was a book filled with authors that refused to criticizes errors they may have found in their fellow peers. The only bright spot was Mark, who was not afraid to say that he disagreed with the others. Though I appreciated Mark speaking out, I was struck with the shallow depth to his arguments. I agreed with Mark, but I did find his arguments to be shallow. I assume the shallow waters of his theological arguments were due to the fact that the book was too small to carry much depth. I would put this book in line with most emergent stream books, shallow theologically while asking good questions. The problem with this continual thread is that we need to begin to answer these questions to the best of our ability rather than just asking more.