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Overview In this revised edition, the author has included three new appendices that examine the issue of limited atonement and sharing the gospel, key biblical passages regarding the topic of "double predestination," and recent presentations of the limited atonement view. (Biblical Studies)
Publishers Description The resurgence of covenant Reformed theology raises again the long-standing debate concerning the extent of the atonement-limited or unlimited? Lightner addresses the question, Who did Christ die for? Accepting the position of limited atonement affects the way in which the Gospel is presented.
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Ingram Advance - 03/01/2005 page 104
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Release Date Jul 1, 2005
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More About Robert P. Lightner
ROBERT LIGHTNER is professor Emeritus of SystematicTheology at Dallas Theological Seminary where he began serving the Lord in 1968. Dr.Lightner is also adjunct professor of the theology at The Theological Seminary in Forth Worth-TX. He holds a Th.B.from Baptist Bible Seminary, a TH.M and Th.D.from Dallas Theological Seminary, and an M.L.A from Sothern Methodist University in Dallas. He is also author of numerous books on theology, apologetics, and prophecy, including Sin, Salvation, and the Savior; The Handbook of Evangelical Theology; and the Death Christ Died, He lives in Garland, TX.
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In Defense of Unlimited Atonement Oct 14, 2007
There are few debates within the Church of Christ that brings as much debate as that of Arminianism versus Calvinism. For Calvinist, there are many books written in defense of their popular system of beliefs known as the TULIP. For Arminians, few have been written as of late. This book by Dr. Robert Lightner is a book written by a moderate Arminian in defense of the Bible teaching an unlimited atonement in the death of Christ.
The debate goes like this: Did Jesus' death on the cross provide salvation for all men or only for the elect? Did Jesus die for all or for the elect? Does the word "world" in John 3:16 mean the entire human race or only the elect (Christians) who would believe? Calvinist insist that Jesus' death is only for the elect (limited or particular redemption) but Arminians stress that the Bible teaches that Jesus died for all especially for believers (1 Timothy 4:10). Arminians believe that all can be saved through the work of Christ whereas Calvinist teach that only the elect by God's sovereign decree (unconditional election) can be saved. Hyper-Calvinist goes so far as to insist that there should be no preaching of the gospel since God will draw the elect unto Himself through His Spirit (Eph. 1:3-14).
I highly enjoyed this book being that my theology is Arminian. I found the book not only a solid exegesis of common Arminian passages for an unlimited atonement but also Dr. Lightner examines common Calvinist passages as well as the works of popular Calvinist such as John Piper, R.C. Sproul, and Dr. John MacArthur. Overall, this is a good book for any Christian whether they be Arminian or Calvinist.
Balance and Sensibility Aug 12, 2006
This is an excellent book for those seriously seeking to know the Bible teaching in the extent of the atonement. He takes a compassionate attitude towards those with whom he disagress, but does not shrink from making bold statements. There is one place on page 97 where I am not sure what point he was trying to make when he made reference to the participation in the guilt of Adam. Though he takes the proper stand on the fact that all are born guilty he says that is not the reason men go to hell. The reader will be advised to read this section very carefully. He does give a connecting answer on page 101. All in all a very good book.
Finally, a Biblical case for the Atonement Nov 14, 2005
Excellent read...Dr. Lightner does an excellent job of seeking the Biblical truth about the extent of the atonement! I just wish more Christians from all camps would read this fine work with an open mind--if they did there would likely be less division in the Body of Christ over this issue. I appreciated the following quotes on Pages 33-35:
"One who desires to be true to the revelation of Scripture must be careful not to become a slave of any man-made system of theology. The question is not, "What did the reformers believe and teach?" or "Shall I be a Calvinist or an Arminian?" nor even, "What is the historical view of the church?" as important and helpful as these matters are; but the crux of the matter is, "What saith the Scriptures?"...It seems far better to say that one believes this tenet or that one as he many find agreement with it in the Bible than to imply acceptance of an entire system [like Calvinism or Arminianism]...The desire and goal of the child of God must not be adherence to a humanly-constructed system...Let us be Biblicists above everything else and at all costs; and when and where this position conflicts with man-made systems of theology, let it be!"
"There is an increasing number of individuals who wholeheartedly accept *four of the famous five points of Calvinism, although they reject limited atonement, or as it is sometimes called, particular redemption...Their refusal to believe that Christ died only for the elect does not make them Arminians any more that it makes them universalists. They differ drastically with both the Arminians and the universalists...they believe only those who appropriate the death of Christ by personal faith because they have been chosen by sovereign God will be saved."
As Dr. Lightner also points out, the strict Calvinist does have a problem when it comes to evangelism. Maybe that is why there are so few Calvinistic mission agencies and evangelists in this century. Their system would logically lead them to this end. John Piper might be an exception, as his "Let The Nations Be Glad" is probably one of the better works on missions available. However, even he doesn't dare to tread into the waters of the extent of the atonement and how a strict Calvinist can effectively share the Gospel with ALL men. J.I. Packer's book on evangelism betrays this weakness in their system too. Thanks to Dr. Lightner and I look forward to more of this kind of work. *[Dr. Lightner is actually a 0-point Calvinist as defined by Classical Calvinists and the T.U.L.I.P. This lack of clarification, by some, in trying to distance themselves from Arminianism, may lead other "non-Calvinists" or Biblicists to believe they are something they are not. See George Bryson's "The Five Points of Calvinism"]
Five Stars for Four Points of Calvinism May 27, 2005
James D. Falls review is right on the money. Calvin wasn't a Calvinist. LOL
I'll give Lightner 5 stars for his book, so long as we're clear that you can't GET 5 points of Calvinism from the Bible. Four's as far as it goes, unless you start fishing around Catechisms and Confessions.
BTW: the term atonement is NOT a New Covenant, Christian term for redemption. The NT HAS several terms that relate to Christ's work (e.g. redemption, propitiation, ransom etc.). Atonement isn't one of them, as it refers to Older Covenant, temporary covering of sins through the blood of animals. That ought to be the student's first clue that there's some other agenda or method lurking behind a Reformed doctrine like, 'Unlimited ATONEMENT'.
Let's build New Covenant doctrines off the terms the Bible supplies! (I just wish Lightner's excellent & classic work was subtitled, 'A Biblical Case For Unlimited Redemption'.)
When it comes to out-leading the meaning of a Biblical text, the only sane order is: Exegetical Theology--->Biblical Theology--->Systematic Theology. Any other sequence leads to the Dark Side.
Reformed people tip-toe through the TULIPs by reading their Westminster Confession & Systematic Theology BACK into redemption-scope passages (e.g. 1 Jn 2:1,2; 2 esp. 2 Pe 2:1, etc.). They _need_ a "limited atonement" doctrine to satisfy their _logical_ arguments about God's work of salvation. But hey: when you're peddling the 5th Horn of Calvinism, why let the text get in the way? Maybe these Reformed cigar peddlers can't see over their Dutch Master beards & Byzantine bellies to actually exegete redemption passages..?
What John Calvin himself believed. Jan 25, 2005
For those reviewers that give this book such bad marks: you should be careful to call this a distortion of Calvinism. Most Calvin scholars agree that John Calvin held to unlimited atonement (he was a 4-pointer). Please see R.T. Kendall's book, Calvin and English Calvinism. The Five Points of Calvinism would be better entitled, The Five Points of Dort. It is a historical anachronism.
Theologically, limited atonement has never made sense to me in relation to the gospel message. What can you say to the unbeliever? "Christ might have died for you"? What exactly are they supposed to believe?