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Ten Things I Learned Wrong from a Conservative Church [Paperback]

By John Killinger (Author)
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In this eloquent memoir, one of the grand figures of conservative Protestantism reveals what he learned from his upbringing and how, with trust in God and compassion for others, his faith matured. With gentle humor and compassion, Killinger shows how faith is a constant, even as beliefs and the world around us change.

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Studio: The Crossroad Publishing Company
Pages   224
Est. Packaging Dimensions:   Length: 9.06" Width: 6.12" Height: 0.63"
Weight:   0.69 lbs.
Binding  Softcover
Release Date   Oct 1, 2002
Publisher   A Crossroad/Carlisle Book
ISBN  0824520114  
ISBN13  9780824520113  

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Register your artisan biography and upload your photo! JOHN KILLINGER is a renowned preacher, teacher, and author who has served in several notable church and seminary positions, including that of executive minister and theologian in residence at Marble Collegiate Church in New York City.

John Killinger currently resides in the state of Michigan.

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Sad, bitter man  Jan 20, 2007
My men's small group chose this book because we all consider ourselves open-minded and thought we would have a good time reading some of these chapters and saying "Yeah, that's what the Baptists do wrong!" (we are all members of a Southern Baptist church). It was clear right out of the gate that that wasn't going to be the case.

Killinger struck me as very bitter. I agree with one of the other reviewers that he comes across as more of an "Anti-Baptist" than a Christian, and he tends to over-generalize people and (I can only imagine) situations to illustrate his own beliefs, whatever they may be. After reading the book, I really do not have a very clear understanding of how he thinks people get to heaven.

I think his bitterness comes from the fact that he was pushed out of the denomination he grew up in, and he viewed this as wrong, because he thought he should be able to hold completely different beliefs and stay in the denomination. In truth, he had become a mainline Protestant (Methodist, Disciples of Christ, etc.) somewhere along the way, and hadn't realized it yet. He rails against the Baptists for disagreeing with him, but I would like to see how welcomed a more conservative Baptist would be if he were to espouse his more conservative views from the pulpit in a congregation where Killinger attends - it's likely that person would also be pushed out for being too provincial in their thinking or beliefs. That's fine, that's their prerogative, but let's recognize it for what it is and not say the Baptists are worse people for it.

Lastly, what was up with the hit parade of new vocabulary words every chapter? I needed a dictionary to know some of these words. They were so obscure that when he used them it came across as condescending, which distracted from whatever point he was trying to make.

I looked for some truth in this book and found very little of it. I would not recommend it unless you are a strong Christian and you want a window into the beliefs of other faiths.
Let the light in  Aug 7, 2006
This book was my bridge from Christian Fundamentalism to a more moderate Christianity. The author has written an engaging book about some of the things that he believed as a child but after his mind opened and he completed his education he realized were not true and ignorant beliefs to maintain. So many of the teachings of the the Churches are man made and ridiculous and the author exposes them in this book. Two thumbs up for John Killinger.

Here are the wrong teachings he discusses:

1)The bible is the literal,inerrant word of God.
2)God is a gread moral judge, and therefore Jesus had to die for our sins.
3)Jesus is the only way to God.
4)there is no salvation outside the (Conservative) church.
5)Worship is proclamation before it is anything else.
6)Spiritual people don't drink, dance, or come out of the closet.
7)Religion is a man's business.
8)Faith is always truer than science.
9)When bad things happen to good people, there is always a reason.
10)Conservatives want everybody to be free.

In response to all the negative reviews written about this book, it is the 21st century and time to shed the ignorance and blind belief in what one wishes to be true, so that mankind can live in peace.For some one to hold a myth created by the Catholic Church for the Roman Empire in the 400's AD as a solid fact in 2006 with all the scholarship available to them is bordering on mental illness. Keep the pragmatic morality, shed the Myth.
Baptist gone liberal  Jun 30, 2006
The author writes well of his journey from a non-religious family and rigid church upbringing to an appreciation of the nuances which were actually in the Bible in the first place. Unfortunately, he still tends to view most church experiences in extremes; everything and everyone are either all good or all bad. His ideas are safe and threadbare. His style is easy to read but sloppy. The author is very self-centered in his presentation. He appears more of an "Anti-Baptist" than a Christian. He had enough ideas for 20 or so pages, and then the book got really predictable and boring.
If You Are Searching/This Book's For You  Jan 28, 2006
This is a great book. I find it so because I have come to the place of being dissatisfied with fundamentalist Christianity, and John Killinger has helped me see why and shown me a truly spiritual Christainity, the kind for which I hunger. If you are dissatisfied with your faith as it presently exists, this book will be an eye opener. If you are on the defensive and threatened by anything new, you will not like it. I, for one, recommend it highly for every sincere spiritual Christian who is dissatisfied with conservative fundamentalism and is spiritually hungry for the true meaning of Christian faith. Dr. Killinger really puts things in perspective in this book, quite courageously, I might add.
Thank you John Killinger.
Disgruntled Author  Jul 7, 2005
Killinger's book is nothing more than venting and spewing against those who raised him in the faith but whose system of beliefs he found too morally constraining. His new doctrinal system is so full of inconsistency and illogic that it requires more blind faith most can muster and thus is being abandoned by legions. The book offers nothing of value.

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