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Overview The theory of evolution is often presented as uncontested fact. In reality, it's only a hypothesis---and an uncertain one at that! This eye-opening resource contains 15 chapters of quotes from secular evolutionists in which they contradict themselves and the theory they espouse. It's sure to make proponents of evolution think twice!
Publishers Description In sifting through the shifting sands of evolutionary thought, one can be forgiven for feeling tangled up in a plethora of conflicting statements. A very great secret kept from the public is that evolutionary scientists are far from unanimity when it comes to naturalism. There are so many competing theories that collide, how can anyone call evolution more than a theory? This vast storehouse of quotes, compiled by Dr. Henry M. Morris and divided into sections, gives much food for thought to those confused by evolutionary theory. Each of the 15 chapters are useful for defending creation against evolution in explaining origins. These relevant quotations bring to light the fatal weaknesses of the entire structure of evolutionism - inadvertently exposed by its own promoters
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Studio: Master Books
Est. Packaging Dimensions: Length: 1.25" Width: 9" Height: 11.5" Weight: 3 lbs.
Release Date Jan 1, 1998
Publisher Master Books
ISBN 0890512280 ISBN13 9780890512289
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More About Henry Madison Morris
DR. HENRY M. MORRIS (1918-2006) (B.S. Rice University; M.S., Ph.D. University of Minnesota) is widely recognized as the founder of the modern creation science movement. For many years he was the president of the Institute for Creation Research, San Diego, California. Dr. Morris wrote extensively on creation science and evolution, producing definitive works such as "Some Call It Science, Biblical Creationism, Science and the Bible Scientific Creationism," and "The Biblical Basis for Modern Science." In 1963, Dr. Morris and nine other creationists founded the Creation Research Society. At the age of 87 and after a full life devoted to the defense of the gospel, Dr. Morris entered into the joy of the Lord in 2006.
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Not even good for its intended purpose Mar 6, 2008
Henry Morris's book is intended as a resource for evolution denialists who want to find quotes which seem to show scientists attacking the theory of evolution. I could review this book AS science, and point out the myriad ways in which G.G. Simpson and others are quoted out of context in a way which distorts their meaning, but why bother? Anyone who seriously considers purchasing this book KNOWS that it will be a compendium of out-of-context quotations, and will buy it anyway.
So the question is: will this book work for you if you are an evolution denialist looking for quote mines to puff up something which you've written? Sadly, the book is not even good for THIS ignoble purpose.
For example, let's say you borrow G.G. Simpson's quote about how the fossil record does not show any trace of orthogenesis. While you're patting yourself on the back thinking that you've found a paleontologist who is damning the fossil record, anyone with any knowledge about the history of biology is mocking you. Why? Because orthogenesis is an ANTI-Darwinian theory of how organisms have evolved. Simpson is saying that the fossil record rejects, not Darwinism, but Eimer-ism and Cope-ism. (And if you don't know who Eimer and Cope are, believe me, there's good reason.)
Or let's say you borrow one of the Goldschmidt quotes in the book (as Jonathan Wells did for his Politically Incorrect Guide to Darwinism). Unfortunately, Goldschmidt, though an evolutionist, was an anti-Darwinian evolutionist.
Furthermore, the title of this book suggests that the quotes in it come from evolutionists. Many of them, however, do not. Tons of quotes from Michael Denton's book "Evolution: A Theory in Crisis" appear, for example.
If you are writing for an audience of ignoramuses and don't have time to read any actual books, on EITHER side, about evolutionary biology, this hunk of garbage might see you through. If anyone in your audience has even a smattering of knowledge about either biology or the history of science, however, you will be laughed out of the room.
In short, this book is not worth the paper it's printed on--even if you ignore the fact that it is, in effect, a compendium of out-of-context quotations whose intended purpose is to gull ignorant people into rejecting a theory which they do not understand in the first place.
This is a book of quotes only Dec 10, 2006
This book contains only quotes, plus very short forwards, to each section. It does not include any commentary on the quotes. None. How can one claim that they are taken out of context? There is no context, only quotes alone. The book consists of quotes only plus the source! Nothing else. All quotes are from journals or books, and none are from personnel letters. Thus claims such as "Quotations taken out of context, edited to fit their meaning, taken from personal letters that are difficult to verify, or taken from minority opinions in the scientific field is what you can expect from this book" are irresponsible as is the claim that this book is "blatant quote mining, and removal from context to change meaning of quotes this book is rife with shows only the desire to lie. Anyone who reads it as anything other than a work of fiction is seriously misled... You will be surprised at the audacity of the author's intent to mislead". It is clear that neither of these reviewers read or even looked at the book they reviewed. Such conduct is one reason why I have become very distrustful of those who oppose Darwin Skeptics. This behavior is very unethical. Conversely the following is good advice: "Look the quotes up yourself, and read the entire context yourself". I did this with many of the quotes and concluded the quote context supported what I assumed was Dr. Morris's position although one can only assume this as, again, this book contains only quotes.
Stop the Whining Jul 18, 2006
You clowns who keep crying 'quote-mining, quote-mining' should really get ahold of yourselves; you look foolish. This book is simply a collection of observations (or, horror of horrors, QUOTES!!!) that have appeared in the professional literature concerning the various fields of evolutionary study.
Morris makes no pretense of trying to pass off the many sincere evolutionists he quotes as doubting the theory; they don't. He simply points out what the popular press and the scientific establishment would rather you not know: that there are profound areas of fundamental disagreement within the scientific establishment (i.e. among materialist-minded scientists) on the subject of evolution. Sure, some of these figures are 'outcasts' in the scientific community (e.g. Halton Arp), and some are/were not (Sir Fred Hoyle). This, unfortunately for the hand-wringing clowns here, has no bearing on their qualifications. Instead, it has everything to do with their being independent, refusing to toe the party line, and following the evidence where ever it may lead.
Atheist astronomer Halton Arp (quoted in the book) was unjustly hounded out of his job and ended up moving to Germany to breathe the air of academic freedom. Why? He dared to point out observational evidence that contradicted the popular `Big Bang' theory of the universe. And he refused to shut up about it (his books are fascinating). Sir Fred Hoyle (also quoted in the book), who never really was an `outcast', was also a devout atheist. Despite this, he had the intellectual honesty to point out that the theory of evolution is ridiculous and unsupported by science. He was also a leading opponent of the `Big Bang'. Both of these men (and many more in the book) have/had the courage to ask honest questions about current scientific orthodoxy. Many of their questions and challenges have yet to be answered.
Recently, Dr. Richard Sternberg (not quoted in the book) of the Smithsonian Institute was smeared and lied about (thanks, in part, to the NCSE), and pressured to leave his post because he allowed the publishing of a paper (on Intelligent Design) that questioned the validity of evolutionary theory. The paper passed proper peer-review and everything; no matter, the heretic must be burned!
Simply put, these people will not tolerate freedom of thought or dissent from the faith IN THE PUBLIC SPHERE (as opposed to a professional forum - and many times, not even there). And they certainly don't want the common-folk reading these heretical ideas, no matter how well-grounded in observation they happen to be.
While the scientific establishment and the press always present a united front to the public, this is mere illusion. Evolutionary theory and thought are far from monolithic. This is an `open secret'; many (not all) of these differences are on full display in the professional literature. One of the few things ALL of them have in common is a deep faith that, in the words of Carl Sagan, `The cosmos is all there is, ever was, or ever will be' (i.e. there is no God). If this is so, something like evolution MUST be true.
Many evolutionists are so averse to discussion of observations and facts that they fight like hell to prevent the problems with the theory from even being discussed in public schools. This is despite the fact that such discussion takes place in the professional literature. Eugenie Scott of the NCSE has even said that to do so would only sow doubt and confusion about evolution in the minds of students. We can't have that, now can we? But alas, I forget myself. Surely such doubts arising in a students mind are an unconstitutional violation of the 'separation of church and state'!
As Morris says in the forward, the more he studied evolutionary literature, the more he became convinced that evolution is about faith, not evidence. That faith is on full display in these pages. This book is valuable for the 'peek behind the curtain' it provides. It also exposes the many, and there are many, areas of critical weakness in evolutionary theory.
This is a useful chronicle of honest questions and frank admissions about, even blunt criticisms of, evolution posed by evolutionists themselves. This makes it an excellent reference work.
That's what all whining about 'quote mining' is about.
Obvious Quote Mining Jun 28, 2006
This book won't appeal to anybody, except those who want it to be true. It is obvious quote mining. (Check out Talk Origins for a discussion on how quote mining is used, especially in this book) If you need to lie in order to believe something, it is not much of a belief, in my opinion.
Quote-mining because they have no real evidence May 26, 2006
Quotations taken out of context, edited to fit their meaning, taken from personal letters that are difficult to verify, or taken from minority opinions in the scientific field is what you can expect from this book. Why not save yourself the money and make up quotes yourself?